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Kim Rogers: Your Unexplained Health Problems Could Be Mold Toxicity

• Christian Elliot • Episode 47

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Could mold be the hidden culprit behind your mysterious health symptoms? In this eye-opening conversation with Kim Rogers of Rogers Hood Apothecary, we dive deep into the often-overlooked world of mold illness and its devastating effects on health.

Kim shares her personal battle with black toxic mold (Aspergillus niger) poisoning that caused alarming symptoms including swollen eyes, severe brain fog, significant hair loss, and stubborn weight issues. After 18 years in the medical field, Kim discovered she was living in a mold-infested environment that was slowly destroying her health despite all her medical knowledge and training.

We explore the fascinating connection between our increasingly toxic modern environment and the body's vulnerability to mold colonization. As Kim explains, "We're all overly burdened," with environmental toxins creating the perfect storm for mold to thrive inside us. You'll discover why mold is part of nature's clean-up crew for toxicity and how an overburdened system becomes the perfect breeding ground for fungal overgrowth.

The conversation takes unexpected turns as we discuss how mold operates on a frequency level, creating what Kim calls a "mold hold" – a psychological attachment that can make people resistant to leaving moldy environments. "Parasites are controlling, and mold is brainwashing," she notes, describing how mold altered her husband's thinking despite clear evidence of contamination.

Beyond just identifying the problem, Kim shares her comprehensive protocol for overcoming mold illness, from testing methods and remediation techniques to her multi-layered approach to detoxification. You'll learn about powerful biohacking tools including red light therapy, vibration plates, infrared saunas, binding agents, and even advanced therapies like hyperbaric oxygen and therapeutic plasma exchange.

Perhaps most fascinating is our exploration of functional mushrooms as healing allies against toxic mold. Kim explains how medicinal mushrooms operate at different, healing frequencies compared to pathogenic fungi – providing a window into a more holistic understanding of health beyond just chemical interactions.

Whether you've struggled with unexplained symptoms, lived in humid environments, or simply want to understand the invisible factors affecting your health, this conversation offers practical wisdom and hope for recovery. Join us for this deep dive into the complex world of mold illness and discover how addressing this hidden enemy might be the missing piece in your health puzzle.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone. Welcome to episode number 47. My guest today is Mrs Kim Rogers from Rogers Hood Apothecary. You may remember her from episode number 44, where we talked about the massively overlooked problem of parasite infections. That interview quickly became my second most downloaded episode, and for good reason. It has many jaw-dropping moments in it.

Speaker 1:

In today's show, we discussed another significant aspect of Kim's healing journey, and that was overcoming a serious mold problem. So wait until you hear some of the symptoms she and her husband had. If you've listened to any of my other episodes, you know I'm a big fan of helping people find better questions and identify root causes, so pertinent to this episode. If you've had unexplained health problems, mold poisoning is certainly a puzzle worth looking into, especially if you live, or have lived, in humid environments. I'll warn you, though, that this topic can be a deep rabbit hole, but we did our best to frame the discussion. So if you do decide to look deeper, you a brief recap of Kim's story.

Speaker 1:

We opened the discussion with a high-level look at why mold illness is such a growing problem. To do that, we had to zoom out and talk about the world of microbes in general, their role in nature and how our microbiomes, which include mold, have become susceptible to mold infestations in the first place. The short version is we are loaded with toxins, and mold is part of nature's cleanup crew, whether we're talking medications, personal care products, plastics, pesticides, mercury, fillings, root canals, etc. The more toxic we are, the more our internal ecosystem becomes a perfect breeding ground for mold. Essentially, what that means is that if you're trying to address a mold or fungal overgrowth and you're not first addressing your toxic burden, your efforts to heal will likely stay in the realm of immune system stalemates or kind of devolve into disease management, which is where none of us want to be. So obviously, the environments we live in are also a relevant factor related to mold, and so we covered the topic of remediation as well, and Kim has actually gone to great lengths to rebalance her own body and her living and working environments to be as mold free as possible. She's also turned herself into quite the biohacker, I will say, and she'll just tell you about several different techniques and therapies she has used on her healing journey.

Speaker 1:

I also found out that Kim is not familiar with some of the heaviest hitters that I use to help people detox and dramatically heal their bodies. So be listening for those nuggets as well. I'm excited just to hear what you guys think of this interview. I learned something from her every time we talk and I think maybe the favorite part of this interview was hearing how you know, after 18 years of experience in the medical world, she came to think outside of the biochemical frame that she was trained in and that tends to dominate Western medicine. So wait until you hear the story of how she used kind of a new paradigm to build a set of tinctures specifically for dealing with mold or parasites, and that's just a fascinating story. So, all right, one last thing I'll say is that if you appreciate this show and just the depth of thought that goes into each episode is that if you appreciate this show and just the depth of thought that goes into each episode, I would sure appreciate a review. So the more great reviews I get, the more it will help other people find the show. As a way to say thanks. I plan on taking a few of the reviews I get and just reading some of them in the introduction in a new monologue series that I'm working on. So in the meantime, if you're looking for someone to help you make sense of your health, to simplify what it takes to get well and to show you way better answers than what you've been provided. You can check out our coaching programs or book a free coaching call at HealingUnitedtoday. So come, find out what happens when seasoned doctors and coaches work together.

Speaker 1:

Okay, without further ado, here is my interview with the brilliant, lovable and down-to-earth Kim Rogers. All right, hello everyoneto-earth, kim Rogers. All right, hello everyone. Welcome back to today's show.

Speaker 1:

I have a wonderful repeat guest. You would call her Her Highness Kim Rogers. She's also known as the Worm Queen, so if you heard my interview recently then you may remember we talked all about parasites. So I'm not going to read all of her resume, but I'm going to give you a little bit of recap in case you did not hear that episode. So a quick background. Kim is an 18-year veteran of the medical community. She worked in endocrinology, neurology, er and urgent care and she was also a teacher at 25 different healthcare colleges. She's now the face of the Rogers Hood Apothecary Company, which educates people about the really overlooked, dramatically overlooked and dismissed problem of parasites, and she has effective and affordable products for cleansing parasites but also other microbes which we will talk about shortly. Her company has two FDA approved facilities in two different states. They have over 13,000 square feet where they produce their detox kits and help people rebalance their bodies and build lasting health. And they've sold. How many kits now, kim, have you sold Over?

Speaker 2:

130,000.

Speaker 1:

Over 100, yeah, so 10,000 more than last time I talked to you, and about 40% of your daily sales are repeat customers. Is that still accurate?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're a little bit higher, we're like 45.

Speaker 1:

Sheesh, which just says something about what people are experiencing. If you got that high of a return rate, so well done, all right. Well, welcome back to the show. Thanks for joining me again.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for having me. I love it. I love it and I love the topic that we're about to dive into. A lot of people don't know about mold. They don't know that I had mold poisoning while I was on TikTok, going viral Like yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay. Well, let's start there because part of your story obviously you became known as the worm queen because parasites just became such a hot topic and you were able to build a company around that. But you also I think it was prior to that you recognized you were dealing with a significant mold problem. Is that right?

Speaker 2:

Well it was. So we realized that we had, like, done some mold in one of our remodels, but we didn't realize it until 22. So I went viral in 2021 and I was, all you know, worm queen, worm queen. And then in 2022, I got off of the Parify kit after being on it for a year, which wormwood suppresses mold spores in your body. So I was doing really good. I got off of it for seven days and my eyes started to swell shut. I literally lost half of my hair, Like like my hair was. You know, these rubber bands. I could only do two, and now I do five, five wraps, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So like that's how much hair I lost, like my hair was so thick and so that was a, and I couldn't lose any weight. Those were my ginormous indications that something else was going on, and I was on social media at the time and so I was doing videos and my eyes were like totally swollen shut. There were days I couldn't open my eyes because mold does that to you, and that was in like June of 2022. And by August of 2022, I had had so much blood work done that we figured out what was wrong with me, and that day that I got my blood work, I moved me and Jeremy out of our travel trailer that we were living in that was full of mold.

Speaker 2:

And we were living in it, building our log home, so it really went fast. We got aspergillus niger, which is black toxic mold poisoning from that trailer. So we realize now looking back that one of our other remodels had black mold in it and didn't realize, because we remodel homes, we're builders, we like to build and so we didn't realize that that also had black mold and that was also causing me to decline when we moved out to our property in 2019. So if you've listened to my story about parasites, it really was a compound of parasites and mold poisoning that was, you know, making me circle the drain.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha and you, as you've said, parasites was, as you work to suppress that it also had an overlapping effect of helping buffer against the mold issue. As soon as you stop that, then symptoms worsen. Did I capture that well?

Speaker 2:

Yes, and that's why we do say wait seven days. It's not the only reason why we say wait seven days between cleanses, but it is a big reason because you'll get a better idea of what's going on with your health. If, all of a sudden, you pause the Parafy and then you wait the seven days, are you going to have more buildup with something else? Are you going to have different symptoms, like you have to let your body kind of relax a little bit and then kind of then get after it. And we do recommend doing Parify two to three times prior to stepping into a mold cleanse of ours, because you're trying to remove as many spores as possible and Parify will help with that. It will help remove the spores, but if you're living in active mold and don't know it, you'll know it within that seven days.

Speaker 1:

Ah, okay, that's a good nugget right there. Just practical, it's almost like a simple way to test expensive kits or labs or anything. You just let your body's feedback be part of the indicator. I like that, okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, you and I were talking before and we've got several topics related to mold and symptoms and the ways our body might be giving us a flashing red light, that there's something worth paying attention to here.

Speaker 1:

But one of the ways, as I was thinking about how to shape this interview, I wanted to see what we could do to frame really the broader world of microbes and where mold fits, because it's not like we're ever going to live in a world free of mold. Right, and it does have a role in nature. So what I thought about just addressing, obviously, the ubiquitous nature of it, so people don't feel overwhelmed or powerless or just fearful. There's another thing that's invisible that I need to freak out about, and now I have to be worried about that. So if you would and I've got thoughts on it, but I'd love to hear yours Take a few minutes and kind of just talk about your perspective on mold, it's role in nature, talk about your perspective on mold, its role in nature, and see if we can remove some of the fear related to it and maybe just give people some intellectual framework for where mold fits in the bigger picture of microbes.

Speaker 2:

So mold does have a purpose, just like parasites have a purpose. You know it's called the terrain theory. Dr Jess just actually talked about this the other day on another podcast, and she's absolutely right. There is a purpose for all of these things. But when your body is so exhausted and your bucket of toxins is overloaded because we really are overloaded with our environmental toxins that are causing us to need to detox more now than we ever did before it is a collection in your body, and so we're not trying to scare anyone. We're just trying to load you with knowledge that you have an understanding of one. What ways should I be cleansing? What ways should I be using these modalities so that I don't overwhelm myself and then end up being worse?

Speaker 2:

And so are we exposed? Yeah, we're exposed every day. But if your body is in an environment which it's cleansing and it's in a supportive but killing type of mentality, you're going to do better when you are exposed to those at a higher level. My body was not in a state at the time to have the mold take over, but it does show how much my body was resilient and allowing me to get rid of the parasites and kind of buffering that mold poisoning, not causing me more problems. And then, once I removed one of the environmental toxins that it hangs out with, it was like, yay, I'm at home alone, now I get to take over. And it did, but it doesn't and it's because I was living in it. Now, if I'm going into a business and I'm exposed to it here and there, like I'm not going to have that type of reaction.

Speaker 2:

I was literally living in it 24-7. And so it really does make that much of a difference when you are. Even my husband wasn't living in it 24 seven. I was chronically ill, sitting on my chair, not being able to really go outside. I was doing my videos from my chair and he was outside building our log home, getting fresh air, then coming in periodically and then sleeping with an APAP so like he, his exposure was so much less than mine and then sleeping with an APAP, so like his exposure was so much less than mine. And so it kind of shows like how each body is a little bit different in the way that they process the environmental toxins. So you shouldn't be afraid, you should be excited that you have this knowledge and that you really can do something with it, that there isn't just some dead end road at this point of oh, what do I do from here? No, you should be like I know how to cleanse my body of some of these environmental toxins, to then make myself feel better, because that's the ultimate goal for us is to be healthier and happier. And so I'll bring this back to why it's really important to cleanse out the mold and bring in an herb like what we have in the Moldy's kit, like fennel, because fennel will snuff it out and then sweep it out. So you're doing a paraffy cleanse with a parasite. It's dropping those spores and your body's kind of collecting those spores, creating the colonization in your body, like you see on a wall. So that's happening in your body on a different type of level in your cells and in your muscle and in your tissue, clogging up your body. You go in there after you've done some cleansing. You go in there and you cleanse even more. It's just gonna keep on removing all of those burdens that are in your body, allowing you to have less brain fog, feeling better, losing some weight.

Speaker 2:

And I know me and you talked about how some people will do the cleanse and then they'll have their weight will not go down, and in a society we live in right now, weight really is, in their people's minds, the indication of health. But when you're exposed to these environmental toxins, they can change your metabolism and they can make it so that you have metabolic disorder. I have metabolic disorder because I was so exposed to all these environmental toxins. It did a number on my metabolism and so that was a huge indication for me of, well, I'm doing all these things, why am I not losing the weight? And I still struggle with that.

Speaker 2:

And I am one of the top cleansing biohack females out here, you know, and I still struggle with my weight. And it isn't an indication to me that I'm not healthy. It is an indication to me that I have more to work on, but it's not like, oh, I'm not going to eat that now, when in fact you should actually feed things sometimes with the nutrient-densed foods in order for you to switch your metabolism to be better. So when you're like looking at it as a weight thing, you got to look at it as a metabolism which is part of your body, you know. So, okay, cool, well, let me see long story sorry I'm so long-winded, you're, you're allowed.

Speaker 1:

This is, this is you must increase and I must decrease. That's the point, yeah, so, but what I um, let me see if I can kind of throw out the framework that's been helpful for me and see if this one challenge it or validate it if that makes sense to you. But one person I've learned from or respected in this world of trying to understand the microbiome is Natasha Campbell McBride, who wrote a lot of people know is the one who wrote the Gaps Diet she's got.

Speaker 1:

she got two books Gut and Psychology Syndrome, and a newer one, gut and Physiology Syndrome and she spills a lot of ink talking about microbiome physiology syndrome. And she spills a lot of ink talking about microbiome and she mentions candida and fungus and various elements of what we find in the diversity of the ecosystem inside us. And you know brilliant points like where everything's wet inside us, so we're always, we're never going to have a non-wet environment, so we are going to have things that would, you know, theoretically thrive in a moist environment. But she makes the point about toxicity and she says as long as toxins remain in the system, the fungi will grow because they are nature's universal decomposers. When the body is polluted, damaged and full of decaying material, we will have an overgrowth of fungi inside us, causing all sorts of symptoms.

Speaker 1:

Research has shown that the best and most efficacious way against candida, for example, is having a healthy population of beneficial bacteria in the body, and she's essentially just making the case that it's. I've almost come to think of it and I really would love your perspective that things like unbalanced microbes or overgrowth of mold or overgrowth of candida or even different bacteria that we wouldn't want having a dominance inside of us. They're almost a downstream symptom because there's so much food they have to feed on. The ecosystem is such that of course they're going to be here because in some ways they're protective. They're doing their job to munch up the rot or the preservatives, the pesticides, the plastics, the metals that would otherwise poison us, and part of being able to balance the microbes is first to be able to remove the toxins. So does that make sense as a frame for how you would methodically think about a healing journey?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, a hundred percent, cause I'm not ever saying that you shouldn't have anything in your body, but the key word is when you're overloaded or it's an overgrowth Over is the word Like, you have too much of it.

Speaker 2:

So, you're really trying to reel that in so that it is an equal balance of energy being given to different parts of the organs, instead of just literally fighting off candida? I mean, we all have yeast in our body and there is a purpose, right, it breaks things down. It works in conjunction with our stomach acid, like they're all supposed to work at a homeostasis level. But when you change that frequency of your body, because these things are alive, that is when you create the chronic illness and the autoimmune. That is when you create the chronic illness and the autoimmune. Your body is literally fighting itself for a reason because the overgrowth has happened.

Speaker 2:

I still don't believe we should have worms in our body or parasites in our body. I still do not believe that that should be something that is in there but because your body should be able to take care of removing the heavy metals themselves and fighting the yeast that can overgrow, causing candida. But there is a purpose in the ecosystem that we live in to have some of these things come in from earth. But once they start to overgrow, then there's an issue. But I'll stick with when parasites eat off of you, because that's what they're doing they're stealing from the host. There's a Greek word for parasites it's an uninvited dinner guest. Whenever you have anything like that, it really is detrimental to your health, regardless if someone thinks that you should have it or not, but I definitely believe that there are people that need to have these things in their body in order for them to bring down their level. What we're talking about is that we want people to have it, not be overgrown or overloaded.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And that's what's wrong with the chronically ill society that we're all living in right now. And that's where this medical awakening is coming from, because people are realizing the education behind their bodies.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, and it's not that we'll ever eradicate every last molecule of candida or bacteria or anything, nor would you want to. They're there for a purpose. But it's the unbalanced ecosystem where they're just constantly having a rager. There's so much food and they're taking over and crowding out the diversity, and then, if you've been on antibiotics over time, you're slowly just whittling away at the diversity of the ecosystem to make it even harder for your body to have the breadth of what you'd use to have a healthy, functioning microbiome. And so it's as much. And at least in our mind, it's the take away the burden, take away the toxicity, and that is part of putting the mold or bacteria, whatever it is, in check. And what I love about what you do is you can bring a hammer to the process of really putting that in check so that we can have a definitive statement that says this imbalance can finally stop and we can essentially tend this internal soil and bring about health so that the systems can run better. So I captured that reasonably well.

Speaker 2:

Oh it was. That was perfect. We're literally building that foundation like a house, and we talked about this. I built a log home. We're looking at building again. You have to have a solid foundation to put your house on, and our foundations are cracked and damaged and so you still need to have some of those supplies that are in that foundation. But they're a burden. We're all overly burdened and we're all being diagnosed with labels of, you know, autoimmune, and that's why I call them labels, because, man, if you counted how many labels I was given over the last 20 plus years of me being chronically ill, it's wild, like you know. And they all just led back to my box. My environmental toxin bucket was overloaded.

Speaker 2:

I had no idea yeah and so you get that into check and I am literally living proof you can watch me from the day I started doing this in 2019. I have an account from then to where I'm at today, and I would say, over the last six months is where I've really gained more control over my health and looking healthier Because of the fact that I've realized the cleansing part and the biohacking part and the you know doing other modalities part. But she's right, I mean, she's not wrong, you know, and it's really important that one. We all look at each other's ideals in such a positive light, because if we don't, we're going to be like traditional versus Western medicine again, and so no one's right and no one's wrong, and so it's like I believe we have to have all of that stuff for the environment, but once it comes into our bodies, that's really when there's a the biggest issue, when you can't handle it, and that's where we're at.

Speaker 1:

We just can't handle it anymore yeah, we are toxic to a level humanity's never dealt with before, never. And it's just, like you know, micro, microscopic termites, if you will. It's just it's eroding us internally and we've got to you balance that and then you can like finally go refurbish the insides and health can return. And that's the part where it takes longer to make you break a bone you don't heal in two days or two weeks. There's a process the body goes through to refurbish itself. And when there's a patient methodical process, like I guess you and I have done a lot of the work, the hard-won wisdom of teasing out how do I start from ground zero and work from first principles in order to build health? And there's so many ways to do it. But, yeah, we've got to get the body burden bucket emptied as much as possible so that when we do come in with the tools that work, we're actually swinging and hitting things rather than just missing and wondering why or ending up, like you did, with so many different labels.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

And then great, now we can treat the label. And we're continuing to go after symptoms and it's just endless symptom whack-a-mole and another climb up the specialist escalation ladder without any sort of fruit to show for it. So welcome to the biohacker health coach non-medical world, Kim, it's great to have you.

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's really what we're doing, right?

Speaker 1:

It's like yeah you are such an asset in the bigger picture.

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 1:

Well, okay, well, so, with that kind of grounding or foundation for understanding this conversation, one of the things that's fascinating about you actually there's many things, but one that I'll highlight here is I don't meet many medical professionals or former medical professionals who can really think outside the periodic table, and so last year I watched this documentary called the Wave Genome and in particular they talked about kind of how the chemistry model of health is very constricting when it comes to the genome.

Speaker 1:

It can only explain like 2% of what's going on, which originally led them to say there's 2% of genes that are important and the other 98% are nonsense genes, which I guess probably sounded a little arrogant or something, so they called them non-coding genes.

Speaker 1:

But the point I'm making is, as they tease out in this documentary, there's light and heat and motion and temperature and magnetism and electricity and there's so many other elements that have bearing on the human body or the human frame. And what's one fascinating thing about you is that you didn't stay stuck in the chemistry model when it came to your health or it came to building out your kits, and last time we talked you mentioned that part of what's powerful about your Parify kit in particular is that it's not just you're chemically poisoning the parasites, but you're matching and balancing their frequency. And it was Tesla who said if you want to understand the mysteries of the universe, you think in terms of energy, vibration and frequency. There's other elements to our lived existence. So for one, how is it that you, as a former medical professional or teacher in healthcare colleges, started thinking more holistically and in terms of like, not just poison these with chemicals, but let me see what frequency I can find to match and kind of neutralize some of these microbes?

Speaker 2:

Music. Just, I played the violin and I learned the violin when I was four by ear and I realized that music made me feel a certain way. And so I really like sat down and I was just playing around with different ways to listen to frequencies with the music and how it made me feel frequencies with the music and how it made me feel. And in the finding of that, I started just researching and digging into like subliminal messages with frequencies and how everything vibrates at its own frequency. And why does the opera singer break glass when she sings or he sings? And I started to just really like look into that and and well, what are we vibrating at? Because I would sometimes feel myself vibrating in a weird like way. Now I know it's because I have babesia and boreala and like all these other things too, but like it was my body trying to push against that frequency. And so I just started to kind of look at what could like what could frequency music do for me. And then I didn't know a lot about like how you can listen to different frequencies and they can actually like push parasites out of your body and mold out of your body. I actually learned more of that with my mold poisoning than I did with my parasites.

Speaker 2:

I would listen to some frequencies while I was on TikTok I actually do a lot of videos about frequencies and how you can listen to them with a Parify kit to help push them out more and I was like researching it and I pulled up a frequency and literally that within minutes, I like threw up some eggs and it was the weirdest thing I've ever experienced.

Speaker 2:

And so I kind of, like you know, went into my little index of thoughts and pulled that one out and I was like, oh well, I mean, I learned how to play the violin. Listening to frequency and I music makes you feel a certain way and it changes your frequency. And they put frequencies in the music and then, during 2020, they put some frequencies in our media to like kind of brainwash us a little bit. You know if you were watching it on both sides of the spectrum and so if that can be done that way, can it be done on a medical way and like that? You know, like your body is just all frequency, and so I think just being able to understand the human body over the last 20 years and the depth that I have bringing that in was just like another layer of idea, you know.

Speaker 1:

Does that answer your question? No, it's great, I didn't know you were going go, because it really was.

Speaker 1:

It's like I don't know how she got to blow open the doors of this.

Speaker 1:

I gotta think inside the periodic table it's fine symptom, smack, symptom and it's just biochemical whack-a-mole is how I find most medical professionals, how they just they get sucked back into that as the frame and you blew that right out of the water and and now you're talking about how you can. It reminded me of even homeopathy. They have this canceling principle of similars, like when you find and match the disease process, it just kind of neutralizes that. And it even reminded me of like EMF harmonizers, like the point being it cancels out the non-native frequencies that run through our air by blasting out the same one in the opposite direction and you're like oh, and it can remove that. So to hear you describe your Parify kit in that lane it made me think well, shoot, I'm so fascinated by your product creation process and how you go about, like how do you figure out the frequency of all these different microbes or herbs in order to match them? So what can you tell us about how you have learned to do that and anything else you want to say about that topic?

Speaker 2:

Well, I especially like honed in more on the frequency idea and how. All of that not just from Parify but really from Moldy's, because you can feel mold way more than you could feel parasites you can, and once you start to demold your body, you can walk in and know there's mold immediately because that frequency is no longer in your body vibrating with it whoa.

Speaker 1:

So okay. So is there some encyclopedia, someplace where, like any of these frequencies have been matched out or people have a more robust understanding that any of us lay people could look at and and tinker with ourselves?

Speaker 2:

I mean any herb that has what it treats. That's all that big p did they just figured out like.

Speaker 1:

So amanita taught me that, that's why I show her everywhere because the red mushroom you have yeah, that's our red mushroom on everything.

Speaker 2:

So Amanita Mascara is a PTSD calming mushroom. People think that it is a psychedelic, but it's actually not a psychedelic. You do have to like, prepare it a correct way and then you can take it. And that helped me get off of my benzos. And while I was looking at how to get off of my benzodiazepine that I'd been on for 22 years for PTSD, I found out that they stole the same DNA structure as Amanita and changed it by one molecule, allowing it to then be synthetically made. And then they villainized her. So I was like well, why'd they do that? What made them choose that? And it's because that frequency helps your nervous system and keep get you out of fight or flight. And so while I did pharmacology in college and taught it, I realized that all that's been done is that they take what the ailment is and try and find a way to remove that ailment, which it's all frequencies. So they remove that ailment with their frequency that they synthetically made, that your body has to try and figure out how to process.

Speaker 1:

Ah, okay, so somebody else essentially did the work for you. You just had to connect the dots of what they were doing and turn it from a typically petroleum-based or synthetic version back into how does nature do this, and it gave you insight into what herbs to use or mushrooms to use, etc. Is that?

Speaker 2:

yep, okay, yep, and that's. And she taught me that, amanita taught me that because, like I'd always been like, oh so you have gird, take preface it right. Like that's how I would write that out to people. I'd be like, oh so you have alzheimer's, you should take lion's mane with ericept. Like those were the ways you looked at it, but like lion's mane is the same similar structure as ericept is. So why? And you can take them together to just do a bigger push, right? So that's in neurology, that's what we would tell people to do when they were getting the onset of dementia in order to help heal their brain. And so it's like, well, can you just take lines, maine, can you just proactively take that to help get through the GABA and help, you know, support your brain? Yeah, so it's like kind of what they did and you're just kind of reversing it to use mother nature.

Speaker 1:

Fantastic. Well, a couple of things I thought of as you were talking. One last time we talked toward the end of the interview, I mentioned something about mushrooms and you're like, oh, I could talk about those all day.

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh, we'll have to do a whole nother podcast, a whole nother podcast on that, okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, anything particular you want to tease people with before a different show on that. What is it that makes mushrooms? Because they. What is it that makes mushrooms? Because they are fungi and we're trying to get rid of mold and we're introducing fungi as part of the solution. So what is it like? How do you there's so many mushrooms or how do you choose? Give people a high-level look at if they're interested in the world of mushrooms, where they might start. And one particular one a lot of people seem excited about is chaga. I don't know if you know anything about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, chaga's great Love chaga. Know anything about that? Yeah, chaga's great Love chaga. Chaga helps with your nervous system. But I would say that if you're starting to explore the functional mushrooms because their frequency is a healing frequency, whereas fungus, like mold and yeast, they have a different frequency to them, their job is different in our world. Their job is not the same as these high-level functional mushrooms. And I recommend lion's mane. Five grams a day is a therapeutic dose. Turkey tail is amazing. Five grams a day is therapeutic.

Speaker 2:

Anything below five grams is a supplement to your body and so that's the way you should look at it. The higher you go, the more functionality and the more therapeutic levels. It is where it's going in and actually working on a medicinal level where, when you go around one to three grams a day, which is on average what you take when you take a supplement, you want to just know that's a supplement, that it's just going in and supplementing what our food is not giving us anymore for that specific frequency of life. But the higher you go, the more it's going to work as a medicine versus just working, and you can take mushrooms with anything. It's not like you take. You can never overdose on mushrooms unless it's like a death cap, which is not Amanita or psilocybin.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you can go to a whole nother level when you're taking a magic mushroom, but when it comes to like lion's mane, turkey tail, maya talky. Maya talky is really great for pcos. It helps regulate your hormones and sugar. Five grams a day. If you have pcos, maya talky, and then you have reishi, which is like a xanax, it calms your nervous system. We actually have four mushroom tinctures and, um, I like to add mushrooms and all, almost all of my supplemental type of tinctures because they really do have such a good purpose in our lives and they're not that same bad low vibration frequency fungus. They're a high. They're here to help us and heal us.

Speaker 1:

All right, well, tell people what your four mushroom products are then.

Speaker 2:

Recover, which has oyster and shiitake, and shiitake has been shown to help remove radiation from your body. If you want to look up shiitake in Hiroshima, when we bombed Hiroshima the shiitake mushroom actually came up and cleaned the air and then when they did like a biopsy of that shiitake, there was nothing in it. It literally cleaned it and removed it and it was just yeah, it was the coolest study I've ever read. And then so it's a heavy metal detoxer. That was my first heavy metal detox time I ever did.

Speaker 2:

I did shiitake, oyster, lion's mane, turkey tail and chaga in capsules and so that helped like kind of slowly get my body ready for detoxing. And then turkey tail helped break down the scar tissue in my body. They actually give it to patients that are on chemo and in the oncology world because it helps break down and assist with the chemo. So people that are going through any sort of cancer treatments, it's really good to get that on board and just live with it like the rest of your life. You're going to take five grams of turkey tail the rest of your life. It's just what you have to do. And that helped me break down and put me into remission with my endometriosis and my atomyosis.

Speaker 2:

Atomyosis is a scar tissue disease, which is one reason why I had such a high level of mold and parasites in my body, because they both love and thrive in scar tissue, because it's like glue and they just attach to it immediately and it's an endless supply of nutrients and endless supply of food for them. So of course they're going to live in that scar tissue, creating more atomiosis in my body, and so every surgery I would have there was more scar tissue, so more environmental toxins were getting in there, more heavy metals were sticking to it that were then being eaten by the parasites. Then, you know, it was all just this ecosystem in my body that was happening, and when I brought something like turkey tail in, it literally went in and just diffused it. It just created an inhospitable environment for them to continue to create more. It just broke it down.

Speaker 1:

So Wow, fascinating. Okay, well, there's your teaser, friends on some facts about mushrooms and different ways they can be medicinal.

Speaker 2:

It was a huge part Christian of my journey. I would do a lot of active mushrooms and meditate, sometimes six to eight hours a day, to find out what was wrong with me. I went inward Instead of trying to find it in the outward setting which I'm from. That setting I'm a valedictorian of both of my healthcare degrees. I'm a huge, ambitious person. I'm a high functional, chronically ill person. That's how I've always viewed myself. I'm chron huge, ambitious person. I'm a high, functional, chronically ill person. That's how I've always viewed myself. I'm chronically healing now, but I had to go in and try and find the answers because I certainly was not getting them from my outside world anymore, and so mushrooms helped me with that.

Speaker 1:

Mushrooms, music and quiet and just introspection and a chance to connect dots that you don't get in the frenetic pace of a normal life. So in some ways it's no fun to go through what you did, but it was a gift to shake you out of where that was going if you hadn't done it and yeah 150,000 kids later.

Speaker 1:

How many people have you helped and health situations have you? But some of our clients in particular, you have helped reverse their health condition. So thank you from a lot of us for suffering through that to learn this stuff. So anything else you want to say about that before we jump to another no, that was great.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for those kind words, yeah, I mean I'm so thankful that I was able to. I mean, we have millions of followers, you know, and I've i've,000 kits, but I've sold a lot of products and that's like not really where I gauge it. But it is really great to be able to have survived something like that in order for me to like turn it around and kind of revenge health on Western medicine. Thank you, yes.

Speaker 1:

Take what they like I hate to say what they steal from us and in some ways laugh all the way to the bank. And I sometimes think of medical doctors as just kind of pharmaceutical reps. They just got trained as salesmen and they're apologists for a particular model, not understanding the birth of the model or the limitations they're shackled with and you being in some ways forced out of that. If you want to go back and listen to the last episode, you'll hear more about that. But yeah, it's a gift to humanity to have you, um, survive and overcome that and then just yeah, revenge, heal. I like that start using that yeah because it's true.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I did a video the other day where I was like you know, when you have a revenge body, I have revenge health and I'm out to like show that to everyone, that you also can have revenge health, that you are not stuck in any. You can change your life in so many ways. I mean I'm only four years into this, not even a full four years. I mean 2021 is when I started this and then in 2022 is when I found out we had mold poisoning and I want to definitely go back to that because once you start cleansing it out of your body, even if it's just a small amount, you can do moldies up to 18 months. You can do it beyond 18 months.

Speaker 2:

In fact, I love Immune and Recover, which came from. Those are my tinctures, which came from the mold, because I lost so much hair and I know that this is a chronic thing with people that have mold poisoning and parasites is they lose their hair. So I was like, well, what can I do to give this to society to help grow your hair back, to give this to society to help grow your hair back? And my nails and I have great skin, my nails are so long, and it's because I utilize specific herbs and so it's like, well, combine them into one, because this is what you're going to fight. While you're removing parasites and mold, your body is at a point where it's like I'm done Like this is not a necessity to live.

Speaker 1:

This is an extra right.

Speaker 2:

It's the first thing to go when your body starts to fail itself. It is you start to thin, you go gray, like. There's things that you can do to reverse that and one of those things is just specific herbs that you can take into your body to get the nutrients.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right. Well, let's talk about that mold more specifically, because we covered parasites pretty well last time, but give people just high level symptoms of a mold infection or maybe things they would or wouldn't think of related to maybe give them some indication to look deeper at that my brain fog was just so unbelievable Like I could not function at all.

Speaker 2:

I remember texting Erica, who runs the other half of Rogers Hood with me, and I was like I don't know what's going on, but like I can't even type this out without pausing because my brain fog is so intense, and so it was really a huge indication that I needed to look at something else that was going on with my environment, and I found the mold in my travel trailer. It started in my HVAC unit. There were a couple things that I now look back and realize. One we had a leak in our bathroom.

Speaker 2:

That is a huge thing that happens to people and they don't realize that when you have a leak, it is in multiple places and you need to cut it out. You have to go in once you have that leak and you need to cut it almost all the way out and then treat that surrounding area to not have more mold or have any mold start, and so being very proactive. If you do have a leak or your HVAC unit which is, I would say, the number one way we all get mold poisoning you close your windows down, so the spores are now living in your environment. With you, you're breathing. Spores are now living in your environment. With you You're breathing, which creates condensation, so you're just activating those spores even more and you turn your air conditioner on, which it lives in your air conditioning. If you're not cleaning out your HVAC unit, a lot Like you have to go in there and clean it with peroxide or vinegar. Never use bleach. Bleach actually activates it, causing it to feel fear, and it'll create more spores when you use bleach. So vinegar and peroxide snuff it out. And so what you're trying to do is snuff it out in your environment because you're breathing it in creating a moist, mucus-filled environment in your body that makes it produce more spores. So there are a few things that you can do to test your environment. We talked about this before. We podcasted today is there's a company called GotMold and GotMoldcom actually will help you understand what spores are in your house, if any. It's like $250 to do three rooms. You do your most slept in or lived in rooms to see and then you can get an idea from that and you can take that to your doctor and say, look, this is literally in my house, which means it's in my body. And so I kind of took that knowledge that I got with parasites and I figured out oh well, the same thing can happen in the environmental toxins that I'm living in. And now that I've done all of these things, literally when I go around mold I can tell, because I'm not on their frequency anymore.

Speaker 2:

Like jeremy's mom went out to our log home last week. Um, she was visiting and she was living in mold. We found out she had a leak in her bathroom and mushrooms grew out of the side of her wall and I'm like, oh girl, you've got mold man. So we took the wall to the studs. We found the mold. We cut all the mold out. We treated around the mold and her whole house and you have to treat your whole house or you have to get rid of everything, because spores live in everything. And so we treat her whole house. Then we retested her air again and everything came back negative and so we were really excited. She went out to the log home. Our log home does not have mold in it. We test our air, but we have mold on the outside because of the air. We live in the outskirts of a rainforest, so it is moldy environment there. She came back because she's been cleansing the mold. She's been removing it from her body. She came back from that environment and could not breathe.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

And it's like it's because that's your body going I don't want that back in me again Like I can't have those spores, like wait a minute, and it's in shock. So it's doing what it needs to do, which is creating mucus, creating inflammation and trying to push the spores out because your body wants to heal. That's what it wants to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it sounds like puffiness is one of like obviously your eyes, but just general puffiness, bloating those types of things. And your comments even reminded me of like we take people off sugar for a while and they go back to it and it's like it hurts their teeth and they get instant headaches. Or alcohol, when you've we've you've been off that for a while, you go back to like geez, I'm a lightweight. Yeah, because your body is telling you that it doesn't want this.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't like this.

Speaker 1:

It's poison and it's not helping you. And because you were away from it, you could test it and it sounds like the same thing happens with mold. You just understand it in a way you wouldn't. Once you've kind of cleaned it out and you've felt the difference and I can tell from looking at you that your eyes are open and you can see yeah, okay, there's a few other symptoms. I've heard that, and tell me if you think these may be related to mold. So that's things like wheezing, coughing, skin irritations, poor vision at night, yeast bladder infections. You mentioned memory loss or forgetfulness, and then some people say it'll even disrupt your hunger signals. Do all those?

Speaker 1:

sound as plausible.

Speaker 2:

Never feeling hungry, peeing all night long Cause your body's trying to, because you're sleeping right, so you're breathing in those spores, so it makes you get up to pee out the spores all night long and going pee like once a night. That's normal. My husband and I were peeing like four or five times a night and I thought, oh, my God, what's going on with our bladders? Or is it, you know, we're in our forties? My God, what's going on with our bladders? Or is it, you know, we're in our 40s? So is this what it's going to be like until we're like 80? I can't do this Right. And so you know your body is saying like something's wrong. And he wasn't getting up and peeing as much because he's on an APAP machine, so it was filtering his air before he was breathing it in at night.

Speaker 2:

Not me, though. I got to protect it. I got, you know you're. In my opinion, your body is protecting your soul. So it's like what can I do to protect this very precious thing that we're here to experience, but also protect the soul. And so it's like pushing out the spores, pushing out in your urine and like soul. And so it's like pushing out the spores, pushing out in your urine and like that's the only way it knows how to really exit at nighttime. For it to like, make a difference. Interesting.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and metabolic disorder and you said that you know it affects your hunger. It does the spores colonate, like I said, on the wall. They colonate like that in your body and it creates a barrier for your body to stop eating or stop losing the weight or creating this inflammation in your body because you're not hungry. It stops that feeling and I never knew what hangry was. I didn't know what hangry was because I've lived in mold for so long that I never was something that I had ever experienced and, funny enough, I was in Disneyland and I had happiest place on earth, and I know it was not happy for me.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I experienced it and I was like what is this? Like I got angry at everyone around me. I'm all. This is not the happiest place on earth for me right now.

Speaker 1:

Oh all right. Well, I'm glad you seem like you've overcome mostly that that uh traumatic event. But um, hopefully you can have a do over on that one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we've gone back since.

Speaker 1:

Okay, good, all right. Well, if I could give you, let's say, somebody suspects they have a mold issue and I could give you the keys to the kingdom and you had free reign just to design a, an approach to cleaning mold out of their life or to overcoming that and kind of putting it in check, like we talked about balancing out that ecosystem, what would be your steps in a process? Or how would you handle that soup to nuts?

Speaker 2:

so the first thing I would do is do two to three paraffy kits to help kind of break up some of those spores. Wormwood suppresses spores, so then saline, saline, ceylon cinnamon also helps push them out. That's why I added it into the Cinnabon.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Because if you do have some spores, it will assist with removing them while you're taking that binder. I would say that that's your first step and then slowly start to get yourself into the moldies kit. Mold is emotional, so parasites are controlling and mold is brainwashing.

Speaker 2:

That's the way it is because it gets in there and it like brainwashes you to think that you can't get rid of this. It makes you think it's called a mold hold and I saw it firsthand with my husband when we were leaving our mold in the travel trailer. He did not want to leave, even when I showed him that there was mold on the walls. I pulled all of our furniture away, I pulled our wall off and I said, jeremy, this is killing us.

Speaker 1:

Wow, it's almost like Stockholm syndrome, micro, like it's. It makes you want a rational. Okay, I was gonna ask you for an example of a mold holder or what would be a way it brainwashes you, but that anything else that in the brainwashing world that would be a symptom that maybe mold got a hold of you inside of your brain and they're matching it.

Speaker 2:

And when Jeremy's mom came back from the log home, came back and sat down next to me with all of it, I could feel her frequency of the mold because it's alive.

Speaker 1:

It's alive Mold is a living thing.

Speaker 2:

So you can feel the different frequencies. When you remove that frequency from your body, you longer have that frequency. You can feel it. If you go near a moldy dishwasher. Does it ever make you feel like it's dark and and like yucky? And you can smell it.

Speaker 1:

That's their frequency that you're able to bring into your body and process it in your mind yeah, you never go to a sense of moldy dishwasher and feel like snuggling up to it, like it's's the opposite, like, oh, there's something off about that, I don't want to be here. Yeah, I could see that. Okay, makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Well, so oh so the next step that I would do is I would do the cleanse, and then there are some biohacks that I did that really helped me maintain, so I wasn't in like an extreme die off. Okay, I did a lot of red light sauna. Thurasage is my go-to for that. Sauna helps push the spores out of your skin so that you're sweating them out and then you bind. So you bind prior to going into a sauna and when you start to push the spores out because you're sweating, then you're binding anything that could be attached to them and then pushing them out so that they bind together. The other thing that's underutilized when it comes to different modalities for mold is cold. When you go from hot to cold, hot to cold, it moves your lymphatic system so quickly that anything that could be living in your lymphatic system gets pushed out, and then you're able to bind that and move that out as well. Vibration plates that's a huge one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let me stop you there, because for somebody who doesn't know what bind means, define it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So binding is a negative charged herb that you go in and it it's like a magnet and it pulls the positive charged toxins. Okay, and so spores, parasites, those are positively charged toxins, and then you grab and bring in a negatively charged toxin and it magnifies it. It's a magnet that comes together and then puts it out of your body, like in your poop or pee, or it doesn't go into your bloodstream, then Okay, and other binders would be things like clay or charcoal or cinnamon, like you mentioned.

Speaker 1:

Okay, there's a breadth of different binders that are things like clay or charcoal or cinnamon, like you mentioned. Okay, there's a breadth of different binders that are effective, but you also include herbs in that as something that matches that charge and can keep it from being able to be harmful again. Is that right?

Speaker 2:

Yes, okay, so like ours is cinnamon. It's coconut activated charcoal and Ceylon cinnamon. That's our binder. Okay, other companies use like carboxy, where it's like a clay and charcoal, and I like fennel. That's a good binder, for it too is fennel.

Speaker 1:

Okay, got it. And then I think I left you off at vibration plate, was it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so vibration, because it's moving your lymph, which won't allow the spores to colonate inside of your body, creating their own environment. And then I use red light. Let me just tell you red light was the biggest game changer for me and Jeremy's lifestyle change and frequencies. I would say that mold anti-mold frequencies that you can find on like Z-App or on YouTube Z-App's, free or on YouTube are the best for mold. Parasite frequencies are really good, but mold frequencies, specifically aspergillus niger, cause that's pretty much what we all are exposed to. That's the toxic mold and it will vibrate them. You grab the red light, you head into your sauna. I have a red light sauna, so I head into there with my binder and like I felt like a whole new person because I was vibrating the spores, disrupting their home, right With the red light. That was like killing them at a cellular level and then I was sweating them out.

Speaker 1:

Nice, let's talk about value stacking your biohacks. Well done, okay. So we've got testing and remediation you talked about. We've got your Parify or Moldy's kits. You've got some of the biohacks red light, vibration plates, et cetera. Any other lifestyle or biohack type things that you would encourage people to consider.

Speaker 2:

The next level. Once you kind of get through all of these levels of cleansing and adding these smaller modalities, I really recommend doing something like hyperbaric chamber oxygen therapy. Oxygen therapy for people that have mold poisoning is next level because it's colonized in our lungs and it will help push out the spores that are inside of our lungs with the mucus, because, you know, lack of oxygen is how we all die. So if you can bring in oxygen with like an HBOT which I have one, I love it. It was a game changer for my mold and lime. It will actually go in and snuff it even more, allowing you to breathe better, because you're breathing in 100% oxygen.

Speaker 2:

Your body is encased at 32 PSI, so it's like a pressure. You're pressurized inside of this chamber. That's pushing the oxygen deeper and deeper into your skin, deeper and deeper into your body. And then I use a red light of course, so pushing it all down in there you do about an hour. I bind afterwards because I've now kind of created a new environment for them to kind of float around in and I'm trying to pull them together and push them out of my body and then NAD. Those are my two high level things that I've done in the last year that has changed my mold cleanse journey in such a different way is that the HBOT and the NAD. It really just boosted my mitochondria, which they live in our cells, so you've got to push them out as much as you can.

Speaker 1:

Got it, man. That's great. You've covered a lot of different disciplines. I've hinted that on different shows, but putting them together in an action plan is great. Are you familiar at all with chlorine dioxide, DMSO, nanosilver? You? Ever use any of those no.

Speaker 2:

Not yet All right. I know it's on my list. It's on my list. Fantastic, I might be able to teach you something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you will. I know it's like I get it, though there's so many different levels of things that you can bring them in when you need them. Like you know, I think people just think that when we're healing, we can only do it in a specific way.

Speaker 2:

But like today, yeah, there's so many. I'm working on my gut right now Like I worked on my lymphatic. We're doing a lymphatic kit drop next month, so it's like I know that, yeah, I'm excited, and so I know that these things that we're all doing sound so overwhelming. But, to be honest with you, just slowly chip away at it, do it at your own pace, and I think that you'll start to feel better as a human being, as your body starts to just get rid of, you know, this round of crap, and then the next round is like it's, it's a journey until you don't do it anymore and then you're not around, and that's not what we want. We want the highest quality of life that we can live while we're here.

Speaker 1:

No, I like what you're saying because that's part of the frame that we've brought to. We run a coaching program to helping people detoxify as well, and I can't throw everything I know at them at once, so I really have to be methodical and almost teach them master one thing, get comfortable here, make sure your body's stable, and then let's try another. And sometimes we stack them and sometimes we sequence them. But when you have a process and you've done, you've spent enough time trying different things your intuition gets so much sharper and you know when you need a binder versus a red light, versus an ozone or an oxygen chamber or whatever, and you just have this smorgasbord of tools and a way to deploy them in a way that's whether it's cost-effective or whether it's travel-friendly or whatever the options are.

Speaker 1:

There's so many ways to heal. I hope that's one thing the listeners take away. There's so many paths to wellness and learn from people who overcome dramatic things, like Kim, or some of the stories I could tell of what we've been able to do transforming clients' lives, but one of the. I know you gotta go soon so I don't wanna keep you too long, but you mentioned last time we talked about live blood analysis and you said you were about to have that done. Was there anything you want to tell people about that or any other modality that we didn't cover related to this topic of mold or what we can learn from you? I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 2:

I need to go do it, though I haven't done it yet, I know. I know I did TPE. I did therapeutic plasma exchange instead, which is where we can talk about that later. But look up, therapeutic plasma exchange is something I just got done doing in January, and now Jeremy finished his last one yesterday and it's basically where it's plasma for recess.

Speaker 2:

They hook you up to a machine both of your arms, one of your arms. They pull out the blood which your blood has red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets and plasma and plasma is where it holds the mold spores, the Lyme, bad cholesterol, inflammation, parasites and it just collects inside of the plasma. This will remove 70% of that in your body. Wow. So they pull all of that out and then inside of this big machine, which is why you pay so much for it. It's like $5,000 to $10,000 per time to do it. It takes four hours, so it's a four-hour process. You sit there for four hours.

Speaker 2:

They pull the plasma or they pull the blood out process. You sit there for four hours. They pull the plasma or they pull the blood out. They spin it down in a centrifuge inside of this machine, separating the plasma from your blood, and then they put the blood back in your body. The red blood cells, the white blood cells and the platelets all go back into your body and then the plasma goes in a bag that they throw away later. They put albumin inside, which is like electrolytes in as a placeholder with the blood that you just put back in your body. They put the albumin in there with it and that helps your body create more plasma again, and then it's like a kitchen sink. You wring it out again in a week and then you remove it, you spin it, you clean it and then you put the albumin back in and you do it again. It's rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1:

No wonder your skin is now glowing. Good job, yeah, fantastic, all right. Well, I don't want to keep you too long, so tell people where they can find you, follow your work, anything about your new uh limp kit you got coming out that you want them to know, and anything else we didn't cover.

Speaker 2:

Well, thanks for having me. I always love chatting with you. It's such a good time, um, and I'm excited to chat more about all of the things that you do, cause I want to learn more about it, I think you know. I think we're at the next stages of podcasts, where we definitely can share that information, where people that on my side will listen and have a better understanding of what you do as well. But, mrs Rogers Hood, you can find me on all of the platforms and then on IG it's MrsRogers Hood. I have a new podcast what's Eating you? You can find that on YouTube.

Speaker 2:

I heard that and you can find rogershoodcom and our lymph kit drops and it's L-Y-M-F, so lymph kit drops on May 15th. We're so excited about everything. Next week I'm going on Dr Josh Axe, so we'll be on him and then I know we're just like we're moving along here really trying to teach people how to be their own patient advocate and kind of get into their own wellness world.

Speaker 1:

Rock on Well. Keep up the good work, kim. It's a pleasure knowing you and being able to pick your brain once in a while. So thanks from all of us lay people who just like somebody who can do the study and make it approachable for us. So thanks for what you do and we'll have you back on again sometime in the future. Thanks.

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